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Dylan Oxley's avatar

This is very fascinating, thank you for sharing! I believe that indie cinema is in a cyclical peak of quality and originality (perhaps beginning with Robert Eggers' The Witch in 2014, A24's first film) and that we are due for a dip very soon. Here's hoping the major studios learn from it, or not - either way, I'll continue to seek out indie films over big blockbusters

Ed William's avatar

Thanks Dylan! Yeah, there’s been lots of very cool stuff from A24, Neon and the like over the last few years. Plenty of great films out there still, thankfully.

Decarceration's avatar

I do indeed those wonderful days of 1999, just banger after banger, week after week.

I think what frustrates me about executives today is that obviously they go on, over and over again, saying IP, IP, IP. And that makes sense from a business perspective. But you need to develop NEW IP for that plan to work. And that TERRIFIES them.

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Mikhail Skoptsov's avatar

Does Raftery talk about the Matrix sequels at all in that post 1999 section?

Ed William's avatar

No he doesn’t… I think he only mentions the first one

Dane Benko's avatar

Yeahhhh, I think a lot of these highs are retrospective in nature and largely invisible while they're happening. There's the successes that stated popular over time and became considered classics, influencing later artists... The cult successes have swam to the surface using their long tails...

And most importantly, everyone's forgotten all the other stuff that annoyed them.

You cite what, a dozen and a half movies here? Hundreds of movies came out. It's easier to feel underwhelmed when these illustrious titles are being released next to Austin Powers: The Spy Who Shagged Me, Wild Wild West, Inspector Gadget, Pokemon: the First Movie, and something called Deuce Bigelow, Male Gigolo (by the way, I'm not saying these movies are bad but I am saying they perfectly represent audience's complaints of commercial excess).

I do think 1999 was particularly good, but because of the nature of retrospective I am also waiting for when people invariably start talking about the Golden Age of Superhero Movies launching from either Sam Raimi's Spiderman, Chris Nolan's Batman Returns, or Jon Favreau's Iron Man, and ending either with The Avengers: Endgame or Star Wars: The Force Awakens.

Today's complaints are tomorrow's nostalgia.

Ed William's avatar

OK, I need to watch Deuce Bigelow, Male Gigolo immediately.

And yeah, I agree. I'm sure there will be a 2007 retrospective published at some point, if it's not already in the works.

Dane Benko's avatar

I mean it was funny, but I was also 13 years old.

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Dane Benko's avatar

That’s a fair read. From a young teen perspective a lot of that ‘weird IP’ stuff just seemed like Dad’s Old TV Shows (and ‘Dad’ would always leave them grumbling about how bad they were) and the big exciting stuff like The Matrix was continuity from your regularly expected schedule of summer blockbusters like Independence Day or Titanic, really. And Hollywood, especially the studio indies, have always deluged us with prestige dramas particularly during the end of the year, so it didn’t feel like all those original scripts and book adaptations were something special we’d lose to the collapse of the “mid-sized movies” later.

Zachary Tannar's avatar

Indeed "Perhaps the lesson is that great movies surround us if we only have the eyes to see them."

I believe this has been the case for all of cinema history.

Maybe it's just because it's the era I grew up in but many of my favourite films have been made post-1999.

2019 and 2023 were stellar years for cinema!